What would you send an alien civilization? Just a ‘Hello!’ or the whole internet?
The idea that we are alone in the universe is as one certain bulk and scientists might say illogical and I’m not saying that just because I’m fascinated with the idea of alien. Statistics are actually on my side. When you have a universe the size of ours, the odds are that there are millions of alien civilizations out there, so why haven’t we heard from them yet?
Well that’s a question that the people at the search for extraterrestrial intelligence or SETI, have been trying to answer since the 1960s. Tey’ve been scouring space for evidence of ETS and they found zip, zero, nada nothing, so what’s going on? Well it could be that any alien civilizations are so far away that their messages haven’t had time to get to us or it could be that aliens are purposefully hiding from us or maybe they’re stuck in the equivalent of the human Stone Age or even the Precambrian era or maybe we have received messages from aliens and we just don’t know it yet.
It’s not all that far-fetched to imagine aliens communicating in a very different way like through chemical excretions or being able to see magnetic fields. After all we have organisms here on earth that are capable of doing that so that raises the question how do we understand a message that might be coming in from an alien civilization? Well to think through the answer SETI held a conference that asked a similar question – how would we send a message out to aliens that aliens could understand? Now if we look at the previous messages we’ve sent out they’re very limited in scope. You’ve got the engraved tablets aboard the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft, there’s the encoded radio broadcast that the Arecibo Observatory blasted off into space and then of course there are the golden records aboard the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2, but all of these assume that the aliens have human-like vision and hearing plus they also require some form of decryption based on limited clues and zero context. We’re not exactly setting them up for success here but the problem of choosing what and how to say something when you have no information about the recipient is nearly insurmountable!
We even encode mathematics generally considered the universal language in arbitrary symbols – after all, how is an alien supposed to know that a stick sticking another stick with double sticks is an egg? Some of the attendees said we should be sending more simplified messages into space and they used a doorbell as an example. When you hear your doorbell ring you have very little information other than someone has rung your doorbell. Presumably they did it on purpose and they are capable of ringing a doorbell and they probably have the imagination to anticipate what would happen once they rang your doorbell so actually you’ve got more information than you first imagined but other attendees said no no no no no no no forget the simplified messages let’s go the opposite way, let’s send everything!
I’m talking about the entire internet -blasting it off into space. That way the aliens have a lot to draw from – they can build an understanding based on the massive amount of context they’re perhaps creating a rosetta stone for the entire Earth. It would be the good the bad and the cute cats!
Alright, here’s your question for this week if you were sending a message out to aliens what would you want to say and what would you not want to say?
Whitey Strieber, an American ufologist and horror writer wrote “Communion: a True Story” in 1987, a publication based on his personal experiences. Strieber writes that he experienced “lost time” and terrifying flashbacks, which hypnosis discovered was an alleged encounter with aliens. The book later was made into a film in 1989 referred to as Communion, directed by Philippe Mora and starring Christopher Walken as Strieber and Lindsay Crouse as his spouse, Anne.
Strieber compares the “commonplace” being he sees, whom he describes as feminine, to the Sumerian goddess Ishtar. This abduction/ufo story is worth a study in case you’re attracted to getting to know how different individuals describe their encounters with different beings.
Project Blue Book by Brad Steiger
All through the 1950s and Sixties, whereas publicly brushing aside the existence of UFOs, the U.S. Air force became engaged in a secret application for evaluating every file of unidentified flying objects. below the code identify “project Blue ebook,” the Air drive analyzed more than 13,000 incidents. The purpose of this commercial enterprise turned into to determine the cause for each alien ship sighting, to check the protection threat for each incident and to check how the USA might gain or create the technology used by using UFOs.
The book is in line with secret information bought in the course of the Freedom of Information Act, comprises accounts of seven of essentially the most important USAF inquiries—amongst them the story of the evening the White condominium turned into buzzed with the aid of UFOs, the secret of the Lubbock Lights, the startling conversion of the admired astronomer, J. Alan Hynek, from flying saucers skeptic to believer and a lot greater.
Steiger’s work on UFOs still reigns supreme. Did the govt cover anything else up? Are we in fact on our own or is there an additional community of beings obtainable?Uuncover the executive documents and testimonials reported by way of people in all places the country who have claimed to witness UFOS.
The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry by J. Allen Hynek
No matter how many years move, the case towards UFOs has no longer been put to rest. In 1972, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a scientist himself and the simplest government-paid ufologist in history, posted a e-book that appears on the decisions made through officials within the early days of ufology. He details the naive discussions surrounding UFOs as americans were talking about them in the Fifties. Hynek proves that there is a conspiracy afoot to cover the data, and that there are lots of situations that nonetheless deserve to be explained by mainstream science—no longer dismissed with jokes. Citing certain situations, Hynek raises questions that have nonetheless no longer been answered and refutes mainstream arguments which have yet to be confirmed.
perhaps to additional back up his claims, Hynek served as legit astronomical consultant to the U.S. Air force’s challenge Blue ebook and was an astronomer and Professor of Astronomy at Ohio State college. He was additionally largely responsible for the founding of MUFON (in the beginning called the Midwest alien craft community)
The Interrupted Journey by John Fuller
First published in 1966, this riveting account of a pair’s abduction is smartly favourite in alien ship literature and lore. The story, told expertly via journalist John G. Fuller, has also become fodder for television motion pictures such as the flying saucers Incident (1975) and fictionalized hour-long dramas corresponding to dark Skies (1996-1997). The Interrupted event recounts (in meticulous aspect) the pursuits of the night of Sept. 19, 1961, a span when an unassuming interracial couple, Barney and Betty Hill, noticed their weekend pressure in New England interrupted by means of a flying saucer.
The Hills alleged that aliens took them aboard their craft and a slew of scientific assessments have been conducted before the couple’s release. Fuller recounts the aftermath, when the Hills back to their home and their jobs and everyday lifestyles but felt mysteriously unsettled with large gaps of their recollections. Slowly and surely, the couple started to come back to phrases with the weird, inexplicable hobbies of that nighttime. this is a fine collectible so as to add to your flying saucers bookshelf.
Scott C. Waring has spent a lifetime seeking aliens supposedly hidden in NASA photos or videos. This time, he’s claiming that a large unidentified flying object might also have come near the overseas house Station.
Waring says he spotted the object NASA’s live information superhighway cameras. in the beginning, Waring claimed that the flying saucers seemed small however taking a look at it up close makes it big. He stated that it become around 30-50 meters far from the space station. Waring additionally defined that there is not any approach that object became man-made nor became it the Crew Dragon pill. He stated that it could not be the “proper secret far flung handle mini shuttle known as the X-37B,” so casting off these supposed that the only feasible reply is it can be an alien ship.
Waring mentioned that whereas it changed into supposedly partially cloaked, the spacecraft grew to be clearer when sunlight bounced off it. He described it as might be a thick circular cylinder, even though it appears extra complex. He claimed that NASA intentionally distorts the reside cam feed, in order that the general public will remain oblivious.
other than this, Waring previously claimed in one other put up that NASA chooses asteroids to analyze depending on the “closest, slowest and with essentially the most alien tech on it.” He argued that asteroid Bennu, which made headlines these days because of its brief action, has deserted ships, pyramids, towers and structures.
For Waring, the structures seemed beaten up because they had been left on the asteroid for thousands and thousands of years. He claims that NASA doesn’t want americans to understand that the asteroid has more exciting things to present other than rocks scattered around. Waring claimed he best reported what he found in one image and 30 more pictures might possibly show greater secrets and techniques.
Waring not best posted his findings on his web site, however he has additionally reached out to Elon Musk and requested the latter to examine his findings. He additionally invited Musk earlier than for a enterprise meeting. So far, the SpaceX founder has yet to reply to Waring’s requests on Twitter.
The witness to one of the most baffling and unexplained UFO cases in history has finally broken his silence and opened up about what happened on those mysterious nights.
The incident, known as the ‘British Roswell,’ occurred around Christmas time in 1980, between December 26th-28th at Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk. The retired US Airforce police officer, Steve Longero was there, more than three decades ago, when the whole weird scenario played out, saying ‘I think it was something not from this world.’
Military personnel including Steve claimed that they saw ‘strange lights in the forest,’ which were hovering between the NATO airbases which were on ‘high alert’ during the Cold War at the time.
Steve was guarding the weapons storage area when the alarms went off.
He described what happened:
While on duty that night, we had a very sophisticated alarm system and everything just went off.
And then I could see these lights over the treetops, and I was thinking, what’s going on? Then they started sending people out there and at first it was hard to believe, all these bright lights. It was hard to take in.
Well from what I remember the lights, fluorescent lights, kind of a glow, like a reddish glow. I remember going out there.
He rushed out to where the other military staff had already assembled.
They looked like fluorescent coloured lights, like red and green, glowing lights and that’s what they looked like.I could see them hovering over the treetops like an eye that was almost following everybody.
It was real kind of quiet and this thing hovering over the trees, and you were like kind of tracking it and like ‘what is this?’ And it was like following, it was like watching us, that’s what it looked like to us. It seemed like something watching us.
From what I remember it was like aglow, it was really glowing like a reddish, greenish light. It was really glowing, like something was really hot and it was just glowing.
Whilst he was there, he saw his colleague, Colonel Charles Halt, who made a recording about the weird lights they were experiencing that night, according to The Sun.
Col Halt came afterwards, after all that was called in. I remember him turning up, that’s when they kind of gathered everyone around and said this is what we are going to do, and everybody kind of dispersed and did what they were told to do.
I remember we had a little briefing right there and everybody was just like, we just could not believe what we were seeing. Your adrenalin was flowing and I remember people saying like ‘what is that?’
Some theories were bizarrely put across that the lights were caused by ‘lighthouses,’ to which he responded with ‘I don’t think so. Not unless the lighthouse could move. Unless they could float that thing in the air.’
And then, as people were getting close to this thing it kind of came nearer to us and then it would go forward and then go back and all of a sudden it just disappeared, like something out of Star Trek, it was like warp speed and we were all ‘what was that?’ it was gone and then that’s when they started doing all their investigations. After we secured the area they said okay, you’re gone, get out of here.
Steve recalled that he was briefed not to speak of or tell anyone about what he had seen because of the ‘nuclear weapons’ at the site. The whole unearthly case remains shrouded in mystery and is still yet to be fully explained.
NASA and Harvard physicists claimed that the hunt for other forms of life outside Earth may require entertaining extreme possibilities because we may have missed alien signals from UFO sightings.
According to Avi Loeb from Harvard, “Aliens are not science fiction.” He added that not discussing aliens is a crime as it is not just speculation much like extra dimensions and dark matter. Silvano P. Colombano of NASA’s Ames Research Center, on the other hand, suggested that there is a chance that the world may have missed alien signals in its hunt for UFOs. He claimed that intelligence and form of life on Earth might just be the first step in continuous evolution. This means that there could be superior forms of intelligence, considerably more advanced than that of Earth, and that they may not be based on the same carbon “machinery.”
Although it is within reason to think that life most likely came from the same conditions as it did on Earth, Colombano explained that we might have to consider that intelligence that might find us and vice versa may not be the same “carbon-based organisms like us.” This also reduces the chances of matching technologies since there are vast time differences in the evolution continuum.
Dr. Edward Schwieterman, the lead author of a new study and a fellow at NASA, echoed the same thought when his team suggested that search for life forms may require looking for carbon monoxide in other worlds. The Earth previously barely had no oxygen, but there is already microbial life in its oceans. Presently, the Earth’s atmosphere is oxygen-rich, and the planet is filled with life, which is not the case billions of years ago. Simulations of the Earth’s atmosphere revealed that it might have contained 100 parts per million (ppm) of CO in the past, which is significantly higher compared to today.
Caleb Scharf, director of Columbia University’s Astrobiology Center, also said that it is possible that alien life may be so advanced that it may be hard to differentiate it from physics. Colombano added that there were some unexplained aspects in some UFO sightings.
According to him, it might be worthy of studying the UFO phenomenon in a different context such as “a system with very low signal to noise ratio.” Studies on such phenomenon should be more open to different discovery and communication possibilities. Scharf’s proposal suggested that provided other life forms may have evolved beyond our technology and knowledge of complexity, then we should be open to “some very extreme possibilities.”
Hunt for alien life may require considering out of this world possibilities.
Thank you to everybody for coming. So this is an overview of what I’m going to do. First of all I’m just going to set forward some preliminaries, a couple of things I’m going to assume without argument, then I’m going to give a brief overview of the kind of things that alien abductees say about their night time experiences, then I’ll give a bit more information about the kind of beliefs that they have. Then the serious stuff starts. I’ll ask how we’re going to explain why people have these strange beliefs.
I’ll suggest that we can explain it by appeal to some strange experiences they have and then I’ll ask whether that’s going to be enough. Actually it turns out it’s not going to be enough because some people have these experiences and don’t go on to develop the belief, so we need some other stuff involved in our explanation, and right at the end I’ll just gesture towards some other contributory factors which might be helping us explain why people have these beliefs.
OK, so just preliminaries to start. One note and two assumptions. The first is just a terminological note: so I’ll refer to subjects who believe they’ve been abducted by aliens as ‘abductees’. You’re an abductee if you believe you’ve been abducted, not if you’ve actually been abducted. So what ‘abductee’ is doing there is picking out what beliefs somebody has, not what has actually happened to them. So if you’ve actually been abducted you’re an abductee, but also if you believe you’ve been abducted, you’re an abductee. Related to that I’m going to assume that all beliefs in alien abduction are false. That’s to say that I’m going to assume that no human being has ever been abducted by aliens. I think that’s a safe assumption but I can go slightly weaker for people who don’t think that’s a safe assumption. So let’s say there are abductees proper, people who have really been abducted by aliens. Take that set of people, put them aside – I’m not interested in those people in this talk – I’m interested in those people who believe they’ve been abducted but they haven’t actually been abducted.
So if you want to leave open the possibility that some of these people have true beliefs, put those over there, I’m not interested in those people. I’m interested in this set of people who believe they’ve been abducted but they haven’t. OK, so focusing in on that set, my second assumption is that these guys aren’t lying. So they really believe their claims, they’re not trying to seek media attention or anything like that.
These people have not been abducted by aliens but they sincerely believe that they have. As I say, I’m not going to argue for those assumptions but you can ask me about them afterwards. OK, so a strange encounter. So in this section I just have a couple of abductee reports from a study by McNally and Clancy in 2005. So here’s the first one: ‘a female abductee was lying on her back. When she woke up from a sound sleep her body was completely paralysed and she experienced a sensation of levitating above her bed. Her heart was pounding, her breathing was shallow, she felt tense all over, she was terrified. She was able to open her eyes and when she did so, she saw three beings standing at the foot of her bed in the glowing light’. In the second report, ‘a male abductee awoke in the middle of the night seized with panic. He was entirely paralysed and felt electricity shooting throughout his body.
He felt his energy draining away from him. He could see several alien beings standing around his bed’. So now I want to talk about what these people come to believe when these experiences happen to them. So here are some common features of the alien abduction narrative. So typically what happens is that someone will have a night time experience like this, then they might seek out memory recovery sessions by hypnosis and then they get all these extra details about what happened to them. So common features, (this is from 1987), include being captured and examined by aliens, communicating with them often telepathically, seeing the spaceship, visiting other worlds, being communicated important information, and being returned to the point of abduction.
More recently, roughly the same kind of thing. These guys are doing the same thing to us. Common themes include being a participant in a hybrid breeding programme which can involve extraction of semen, sex with aliens, meeting hybrid offspring, and being subject to medical procedures on spaceships. So these are the typical things that are reported by abductees. So now I want to talk about two cases which are documented in John Mack’s book, Abduction. So he does the memory recovery sessions and he endorses the abduction explanation and these are from his point of view talking about these subjects who have had these experiences. So this is Scott’s story. So Scott’s room had no door, ‘and unexplained light was coming in from the direction of the adjacent clothes/washer dryer room. Scott’s breath was now coming in loud, short gasps as he spoke of “six” of “them” with “boxy” and “angular” heads that were “after me”.
Then he saw a “round-tipped rod” pushing towards him which Scott related to how he was anaesthetised. “They know I’m aware”, Scott said and “they put me under” so that “I couldn’t move”. At this point a “buzzing” in his right ear changed to a ringing sound and “I lost control of my body”. Then all Scott saw was a screen like a TV monitor that was “fritzing”. Memories of his life flashed before him as he felt himself struggling to protect his mind “So they couldn’t touch it”. After this he quite literally lost consciousness although he had been saying “as fast I could ‘I’ve got to remember, I’ve got to remember’.”’ And this is the case of Catherine which I’ve laid out as a transcript. So this happened to her she says when she was a young girl and she was kidnapped from a friend’s garden and when she was up on the spaceship, one of the ‘little men’ brought out a metal implement and this is what happened next, where ‘C’ is Catherine and ‘A’ is alien. So ‘what are you going to do with that?’, ‘I’m just going to make a little cut’, ‘why?’, ‘because we need a sample’. ‘No, no, you can’t cut me’, ‘we have to’, ‘no you don’t have to, that’s mean, you don’t have to do it to me’, ‘it’s for scientific research’.
‘Well why can’t you cut something else?’ and this is after the cut, ‘because we need to blood. We had to get the sample’, ‘but you didn’t tell me why’. So this is on the way back down to earth ‘I’m researching your planet’, ‘what’s wrong with my planet?’, ‘we’re trying to stop the damage’, ‘what damage?’, ‘the damage from pollution’. ‘I don’t know about that’ says this 8 year old girl, ‘you’ll learn’. And then we’re going down again ‘I’m getting closer to the ground, getting closer, getting closer’ and I’m on the ground and I want to run away but I can’t move and he says ‘we’ll be back for you’. OK, so that was the easy bit.
That was just describing what these people report on. What on earth is going on? How do we explain this, given my assumption at the beginning that all of these beliefs are false? OK, so it’s not really illuminating to just say ‘oh, these people are obviously crazy’, that’s not a very good explanation of what’s going on here. We can do better than that. So people who are interested in alien abduction belief, they like to talk about awareness during sleep paralysis, so I’ll say what that is now.
So this is described by Richard McNally as a hiccup in the architecture of rapid eye movement sleep which lasts anywhere from a few seconds to several minutes. So during rapid eye movement sleep the sleeper is immobilised so motoric output is blocked. This is usually a really helpful mechanism because it stops us acting out our dreams and hurting sleeping partners. But sometimes things go really wrong and we can wake up before the paralysis has disappeared and we can become aware that we’re unable to move. And this can be accompanied, not surprisingly, by an increase in heart rate, difficulty breathing, and feelings of dread. But it’s actually quite common in the general population. Estimates vary on this but McNally and Clancy put it at 30% of the general population who have had an experience of sleep paralysis and three quarters of these people will hallucinate during the paralysis in one modality, which is just to say either visually or auditorally, whilst they’re paralysed. You can imagine how terrifying this is. Katherine Holden and Christopher French give a slightly different range, so they say it’s ‘somewhere between 25 and 40% of the population’ have had some experience of awareness during sleep paralysis. It’s not a disease or any other kind of medical condition, it’s terrifying but actually it’s harmless, it does not indicate ill-health or pathology.
OK, so that’s the first step. Then we can start talking about the hallucinations which can accompany this paralysis and these may be visual including ‘lights, animals, strange figures and demons, or auditory including heavy footsteps, humming or buzzing noises and sounds of heavy objects being moved’. So McNally and Clancy ask you to do this imaginative exercise. So ‘Imagine opening your eyes shortly before dawn, attempting to roll over in your bed and suddenly realising that you’re entirely paralysed. While lying helplessly on your back and unable to cry out for help you become aware of sinister figures lurking in your bedroom. As they move closer to your bed your heart begins to pound violently and you feel as if you’re suffocating. You hear buzzing sounds and feel electrical sensations shooting throughout your body. Within moments the visions vanish and you can move again. Terrified’—obviously—‘you wonder what has just happened’.
OK, so some people have this experience and they want to know what just happened to them. Now of course some people can just shrug it off as inexplicable or they might say ‘well, clearly I had too much to drink last night’ or maybe they actually know the explanation, maybe they spend their days thinking about hypnopompic hallucination and sleep paralysis. But for those people who don’t, they might be kind of freaked out and want an explanation of what just happened to them. So although ASP and hallucination is relatively common among the general population, knowledge of these states isn’t really. This doesn’t pop up on interview panels or on TV. So given that most people don’t know about this kind of stuff, it’s unlikely that they’re going to be able to explain their experience by appeal to these kind of explanations. So I’m willing to bet that before you guys came in here, at least some of you didn’t know about awareness during sleep paralysis and hypnopompic hallucination. If you don’t know about it, you’re not going to be able to explain your experience by appeal to it.
And though the experiences are common, they don’t indicate pathology. The general public just don’t know about this so they don’t go and say something like this, ‘oh, this is a dyssynchrony in the architecture of REM, it’ll pass’. They don’t do that. They freak out and they want to know what happened to them. OK, so this is McNally’s typical case of what happens to an abductee. They have this kind of night time experience, they wonder what happened to them, then they start reading about these experiences either online or in books. They see therapists who endorse the abduction explanation, therapists like John Mack, then they enter into memory recovery sessions via hypnosis and under hypnosis they start generating more details about the experience and what happened thereafter, including them being ‘whisked through walls up into the sky and into spaceships’, being ‘sexually probed by aliens’ and ‘involved in hybrid breeding experimentation’ before being ‘brought back down to the bedroom before the break of dawn’.
So now I want to ask whether experience is enough. So what I’ve said so far is that people have these beliefs that they’ve been abducted and all these terrible things have happened to them and we know that these kinds of experiences can be caused by awareness during sleep paralysis and accompanying hypnopompic hallucinations. So do we have a full explanation? Is that all we need to say in order to explain this? Obviously my answer’s going to be ‘no’ because I have two more sections. So does experience explain everything? It doesn’t. So in McNally and Clancy’s 2005 study, one of their twelve control subjects – so their subjects who were not abductees – reported having experienced sleep paralysis and just forgot about it. She wasn’t really worried about it, she just wrote it off as inexplicable. So they say of this, ‘not all individuals experiencing sleep paralysis will seek an explanation.
Some will simply shrug it off as weird and inexplicable occurrence’, some people will know the true cause. So having the experience isn’t going to be enough to get you all the way to alien abduction belief. And in a large scale study by J. Allan Cheyne and colleagues, they surveyed 870 university students and 22.5% of them had had this kind of experience, this sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Max Coltheart who’s a cognitive scientist working on delusion, he comments on this and he says look, I don’t know how many people think that they’ve been abducted by aliens, but I’m willing to bet that ‘it’s going to be lower than 22.5%’ and if we can take that 22.5% as representative of the general population, then it looks like we’ve got people who have the experience but don’t go on to have the weird belief. So there will ‘be many people who’ve experienced sleep paralysis with hallucinations yet do not have the alien abduction belief’.
So the experience can’t be doing all of the work. So it’s not enough. So this is Max Coltheart, if we accept that ‘the experience of sleep paralysis with hallucination is what prompts the idea of alien abduction in abductees, we still need to explain what it was that turned this idea into a permanent belief in these particular people when most people who have the experience do not adopt the belief’. This is from Susan Clancy, she’s my favourite person to read on this subject. She has a book called Abduction: Why People Believe they’ve been Abducted by Aliens, which I heartily recommend. This is a quote from her. She says look, ‘when there are so many available explanations for this kind of experience, from excess carbohydrates to parental neglect, from insufficient bikram yoga to too much Prozac, why pick alien abduction? What makes abductees unusual is not the strangeness of their experiences’, we’ve already seen that’s fairly common, ‘or their desire for an explanation, but the specific explanation they choose.
Why do some people come to believe that their sleep paralysis experiences are caused by extra-terrestrials?’ and then as a funny aside she says ‘it’s not actually a very good explanation for this reason: ‘Wouldn’t you think that these mentally and technologically superior beings would have something more interesting to do, something quite possibly beyond the imagining of the human brain than to hang around North America’ – where most abductees live – ‘kidnapping its more creative and intuitive inhabitants in order to do the same experiments over and over again?’ We always hear from people that they took their genetic material to produce hybrid babies. ‘Why are these genius aliens so dim? After 50 years of abducting us, why are they still taking the same bits and pieces? Don’t they have freezers?’. So here’s a reason for thinking actually it’s not a very good explanation of their experiences. OK, so just in the last part I’m just going to gesture to what other stuff might be going on which will get us from the experience to the alien abduction belief.
So, what you might be inclined to say is that OK, the experience isn’t enough in people who are kind of mentally well but if you get someone who’s a little bit mentally unstable, plug in the experience, that will do all the work. That’s going to be a really bad explanation because actually alien abductees are mentally well people. So there’s been no convincing evidence for higher rates of ‘serious psycho-pathology among abductees compared to the general population’.
And the typical abductee though, and this is what seems to be doing some of the work, there is a little bit of oddness about them. So they have a ‘long-standing interest in New Age practices and beliefs such as reincarnation, astral projection, mental telepathy, alternative healing practices, energy therapies and astrology’ and you might think that these beliefs make abductees ‘especially prone to endorse an alien encounter interpretation of their sleep paralysis episodes’. So if you’ve got someone who already believes in this kind of stuff, then you plug in the experience, that might be enough. And this is Clancy again.
She says look, it’s kind of consistent with what we already believe. We’ve already seen the alien abduction movies, we know the kind of thing that these guys get up to when they come to earth, so when we’re looking for an explanation of an experience, assuming we’re not well read in psychology so we don’t know the true explanation, we can only choose from those explanations which we’ve actually heard of. Most of us who don’t study this stuff, a ‘set of possible explanations is far from complete’. Most of us are ‘unaware of the prevalence of sleep paralysis, sexual dysfunction, anxiety disorders, perceptual aborations, chemical imbalances, memory lapses, and psychosomatic pain.
But, our set of possible explanations does include alien abduction’… ‘everyone knows about aliens and their modus operandi’, right? We all know that ‘they come at night, fill you with terror, kidnap you and erase your memories’. We’ve all seen the films, right? This kind of explanation is available to us. So it’s also consistent with the kind of thing that we believe already – some of us. So maybe we’ve got closer to a full explanation now. So we had this experience that I outlined at the beginning but I said that’s not going to get you all the way because some people have the experience without the belief.
OK, plug in this other stuff, so New Age beliefs and familiarity with the alien abduction narrative, which people in North America – which coincidentally is where most of the abductees live – have. These other contributory factors are present in the normal population, so they’re not sort of clinically significant, they don’t make you mentally unwell if you have these New Age beliefs and this familiarity with the abduction narrative. So maybe we can get closer to a full explanation of alien abduction belief by looking at the weird experiences people have, plus some oddities found in the non-abductee population. So I’ll just leave you with this final thought from Clancy. So she says ‘at other times and other places in the world, such night terrors have been interpreted as Satan, demons, witches, dragons, vampires, large dogs and angels and erect Gorgon’.
(I don’t know what that is.) ‘Today it’s extra-terrestrials, yet although it’s true that sleep paralysis and alien abduction experiences have a lot in common’, right, ‘there’s one important difference. Sleep paralysis is a fact; alien abduction isn’t. So, if you wake up in the middle of the night, levitating above your bed and sleeping like a chicken on a rotisserie, you should understand that the experience is roughly a billion times more likely to have been caused by something normal than by something paranormal’.
‘But be careful about telling this to an actual abductee. You’ll encounter only denial, anger, blank stares or condescending smiles’. Thanks. .
Known UFO hunter Scott C. Waring has reached out several times to Elon Musk, asking the latter to investigate his alien findings, which he claims are hidden in NASA’s videos or photos.
Waring’s latest tweet to the Tesla founder was about a 10-mile long alien ship spotted in the Waterman crater on Earth’s natural satellite.
Waring reached out to Musk several times, asking the SpaceX CEO and Founder to look at the “discoveries” he made as he searched for truth about aliens his entire life.
In his alien ship tweet to Musk, he also asked the executive to imagine all the advanced technologies that could be onboard the alien ship. He even compared the appearance of the “ship” to the Voyager.
“Get this ship and it will take humans across the universe. Oh…and I found others,” he claimed in the last part of his tweet. His website UFO Sightings Daily also features images which Waring said shows “space crabs” on Mars. He added that “tiny midget mini-Martians” ruled it.
Throughout the years, Waring has been inviting the billionaire for a meeting about a potential business idea and also to have a look at the super-sized “alien spaceships” that he spotted in NASA images. According to Metro, Waring seems to have a soft spot for Musk although he has not received a reply yet from the Tesla founder. Previously, Waring expressed support for Musk when he volunteered to develop a submarine to help rescue the group of Thai kids stuck inside the cave.
Musk’s work on spaceflight has made him a popular figure in discussions about space. With his SpaceX team, Musk launched the Crew Dragon space capsule successfully which many view as the “ship of the future” and a mark that will start the new era of spaceflight.
Musk recently revealed more details on how he plans to launch flights to Mars. The visionary claimed that he wants something that travels beyond Earth that works as efficiently as catching a flight at the airport. In other words, the business magnate wants a rocket that can land on the Moon, Mars, the Earth and anywhere else and also take off just as fast as planes at the airport on our planet.
“Transpiration cooling will be added wherever we see erosion of the shield. Starship needs to be ready to fly again immediately after landing. Zero refurbishment,” Musk said in a tweet.
Strange ‘Inter-dimensional’ Visitor At Rendlesham? – Sighting Report Yet again, more strange sightings are being reported from the now famous Rendlesham forest – this time from a couple of our followers, who captured something rather odd when taking a photograph?!. Sam Sawyer reported to our FB site exactly what they had captured on their decent Cannon camera. It was only after they reviewed the images they could see the strange looking figure stood there in front of their night lights. Sam suggested that it looked like some kind of “Red shaped figure/entity”. Sam was with friends investigating the area and felt the need to report this intriguing sighting to us after reading one of our recent articles about ‘Inter-dimensional Beings’ being witnessed by some local investigators in the Rendlesham area (please see article below). Luckily for us, Sam sent in the sighting report to us guys at U.I.P – Please see his report below, with images.Rendlesham Sighting Report – May 13th 2017. Date of Sighting: May 13th 2017. Location of Sighting: Rendlesham forest. Brief Description: Possible entity of some sort caught on camera. Full Description: Recently me and 3 friends went camping in Rendlesham forest to do the famous UFO trail and do a bit of star gazing, hoping to perhaps see a UFO ourselves.
We are all interested in the field and wanted to visit this famous site and get out of London where the light pollution obstructs our view of the night sky. Anyways, on the second night we decided to do the UFO trail in pitch black and in reverse. So we began walking along the trail from the end towards the middle of the forest. Shortly after starting however our resident photographer if you will, stopped to adjust some settings on his camera (Cannon 1300d) myself and the others walked ahead a bit. After maybe 200 yards. Sanj, our photographer asked us to stop and face him as we were wearing torches strapped to our heads and he thought it would make a good photo. So we did and he took a long exposure shot.
I think it was about 10 seconds. And we then continued on our adventure. It wasnt until we got back to camp that Sanj pointed out to us that it looked like there was a huge red figure behind us in the photo. At the time we all thought it looked pretty cool but kind of dismissed it as a lighting effect created by our headlights.
Fast forward 2 months and i read the article posted on facebook by U. P about people having photographed potential interdementional beings in the same area. So I sent a message to the admin team for them to analyse. To give context, the photo was taken in the dead of night so no natural light or any other lights are in the photo other then our headlights and moonlight. We are standing approximately 200 yards from the camera and it was taken on a tripod. Appearance: Red shaped figure/entity. Day/Night: Nighttime. Time: 11. 30pm-12am. Surroundings: Forested area. It was on the UFO trail.
Duration: Was not seen with the naked eye. Witnesses: No one witnessed it at the time but there were 4 of us present. Explanations: I am not sure what this is in the picture. It only became relevant to me after reading an article on this site about possible inter-dimentional beings being caught on camera in the area. It could be lens flare of some sort but the guy who took the photo does not think that this is the case.
Reported Previously: No. Views: I am a beliver in UFOs and that we have been and are still being visited by other beings for a long time. We specifically went to rendlesham forest to do the UFO trail and camp out looking for possible UFOs. We did see a couple of things in the sky like a blinking light that seemed to stay in the same place and a few stars moving that we just put down to being satellites. But this particular image was nothing more then a keepsake that we thought looked kinda cool. We only realised there could be something more after having read the article and seeing some of the photos taken of potential inter-dimensional beings in the Rendlesham forest area. Location of Submitter: London. Submitter Age: 31. Please see the original and zoomed in image below:. P SUMMARY. We are hearing more and more about strange sightings being reported at Rendlesham, hence we are now arranging our own field trip with our followers to so some investigating ourselves. We will be bringing along with us our friend Derek, who has been investigating the area for some time now with his colleagues.
This particular sighting is very interesting/a little creepy! You can see the shape if the head, neck and body – this appears very similar to some of the inter-dimensional sightings that have been witnessed previously at Rendlesham! Perhaps these beings are what was witnessed near the US military base back in 1980!? Maybe there is some kind of cross dimensional path in this region to other worlds!?. Please let us know if YOU have ever witnessed anything similar to this before?. .
The fact is, as our government has no secrets about UFOs there are no secrets to be revealed on Wikileaks. The fact is if UFOs do not exist then our government does not show any interest in something that does not exist. But what if I tell you the fact that all those things they’ve denied are slowly been confirmed. In the next minutes, I come up with examples of governments, go through som Wikileaks documents, followed with a wealth of UFO documents released by the Spanish government and my thoughts on why governments are so interested. Stay tuned, because this has become interesting. Hi, I’m Heathcliff and this is Lions Ground. I hope you have a fantastic day. When it comes to UFOs, I’m very skeptical. But where there’s smoke, there’s fire, especially as the government is doing spastic about it. Here are some examples of experiences from the government: In October 1969, former US president Jimmy Carter had seen a UFO when he left a fundraiser, at Leary, Georgia. Jimmy Carter formally threw a UFO sighting report with the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena 4 years later, in September 1973. This one. But Jimmy Carter made a U-turn to the promise of declassifying UFO documents.
The reason for national security is the reason for backing down. President Jimmy Carter never mentioned UFO again. UFO Rendlesham Forest incident ‘witness’ talks after 36-year silence, The witness, Steve Longero, a retired US Air Force police officer. Here’s the document: The CIA and FBI released ‘zillion’ UFO Files combined. On January 26, 2016, the CIA tweeted a tip how to investigate a UFO using the hashtag Project Blue Book, a series of studies of UFOs by the United States. The governments have in fact UFO secrets. Such as Germany, After years of legal proceedings, the Supreme Court ordered the German Bundestag to release information about UFOs, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and a special UN resolution the research on UFOs. This information is collected by the scientific service of the German parliament. Until today, the Bundestag kept this information not only secret, they also tried to prevent that the people could gain access to the courts. The verdict is a big step for the German UFO research. When you talk about UFOs in the early days until recently you were ridiculed by the media and the government.
The fact is, based on what I have shown you: documents, experiences, and other publications, the government indirectly says there is more, they know more, and they keep it a secret for you. Thanks to Wikileaks, I can tell you that even United Nations is very interested in UFOs. WikiLeaks posted more than half a million U.S. State Department diplomatic documents from 1978 detailing America’s interactions with countries all around the world ― including Grenada Prime Minister Eric Gairy’s efforts to organize a United Nations-based committee to research and investigate global UFO reports on May 18, 2015. Many of the documents, written by American UN officials, indicated how closely they were monitoring Grenada’s UFO-related activities. One document, from Nov. 18, 1978, revealed the involvement in helping Grenada to produce a credible UFO presentation. This 1978 letter from Grenada to Lee Speigel confirmed that country’s commitment to sponsoring Speigel’s UFO presentation at the United Nations.
Another cable posted on WikiLeaks, from Nov. 24, 1978, refers to Ambassador Richard Petree’s meeting with Grenada representatives “to discuss their UFO resolution. Ambassador Petree acknowledged the high level of interest in UFOs among some elements of the private sector and scientific community … and pointed to the budgetary impact as a major concern of the U.S. and other countries.” On Nov. 28, 1978, the day after our presentation at the UN, this document was sent through official channels, detailing the actual UFO event, describing what each of the invited scientific and military speakers had to say to the member nations. A few days after that, on Dec. 2, 1978, a follow-up cable was transmitted, including the following: Subsequent to the introduction of the Grenadian UFO resolution, Misoff has engaged in two separate informal negotiating sessions, which included representation from Austria, USSR, and Grenada, in an attempt to arrive at a mutually acceptable compromise solution to the problem. A draft decision to be taken by the Special Political Committee (SPC) has been agreed upon by the participants in the informal negotiations, subject to the concurrence of their respective capitals.
We think referral of the matter to the Outer Space Committee (OSC) without a preordained mandate as to what action is to be taken, provides the flexibility the OSC needs to take whatever action it deems appropriate. It will also obviate the need to vote on a resolution (and gamble on the results). d. The following week brought forth another document, on Dec. 8, 1978, which stated: “The General Assembly invites interested member states to take appropriate steps to coordinate on a national level scientific research and investigation into extraterrestrial life, including unidentified flying objects, and to inform the secretary-general of the observations, research, and evaluation of such activities.” It was further suggested that Grenada’s views on UFOs could be discussed in 1979. Unfortunately, that didn’t come to pass, as Grenada Prime Minister Gairy was overthrown in a 1979 coup. Needless to say, without the Gairy-based initiative on UFOs, it was quietly relegated to Grenada’s back burner. This is the tip of the UFO-UN iceberg. It shows how the subject of UFOs wasn’t merely officially ridiculed or slapped aside. There was, and perhaps still is, some interest there, just waiting to emerge.
If there are no UFO secrets, there are no leaks. The contrary is confirmed. I released last year the news story “Treasure of UFO Files: Spanish Ministry of Defence Released X-Files”. “The Spanish Ministry of Defence has released a huge amount of information about UFOs in Spanish airspace. It’s about a report of nearly 2,000 pages covering the period between 1962 and 1995.” c. There are also relatively large UFOs spotted in Madrid and Barcelona. People have also reported unknown objects in Extremadura, Andalusia, the Balearic Islands (Mallorca and Menorca especially) and Castellón. In 1968, the most UFOs were reported. The first sighting took place over San Javier in Murcia. My conclusion If no UFOs have been seen as the government always claimed, why does the governments keep track on UFOs secretly behind our backs. If you have nothing to hide why are there so many secrets about UFOs. Only now, old documents are released.
You’re not going to deny first years and later releasing the documents. What does that say about our government? That they are stupid or arrogant? Both. You can not trust their words. What you’ve seen in this video is just a tip of the mountain. What I think, the country which gets the technique first will be the ruler world. What do you think? Click the videos next to me to watch more of my videos.
I sincerely want to thank you for your time watching this video, it’s really appreciated. I’ll see in the next video. I’m Heathcliff, your host, lionsgroundnews.com .
– Tonight, something strange happened in the skies over Arizona that still hasn’t been fully explained. – An event now known as the Phoenix lights. – It is extraordinary. – No one knows for sure what happened that night in the skies over Arizona in March, but thousands of people saw something. – This week on Buzzfeed Unsolved, we investigate the Phoenix lights, a possible UFO sighting in Phoenix, Arizona. This case is regarded by many to be ^one of the bigger UFO cases of all time, ^mainly because of the amount of witnesses. ^You already look like you’re stoked. – I love it, I love it. (laughs) A lot of times, it’s like ooh, this person saw a lady get abducted by minions, but nobody had a camera.
– Well, not today, friend, not today, because spoiler alert, just take a little peek in there. It’s hot. – You didn’t even look. Ooh, there you go. – There’s so much heat in here. Let’s get into it. – Okay. – (laughs) Okay. ^On March 13th, 1997, around 7 PM, ^a string of about five lights in a V formation ^appeared in the sky above Phoenix, Arizona. The National UFO Reporting Center reported that the first call regarding the lights came in at PM from a retired police officer in Paulden, Arizona, which is about two hours north of Phoenix. The retired police officer reported he saw, quote, ^a cluster of red-orange lights ^arranged in a V formation, end quote. The National UFO Reporting Center reportedly began to get a flood of calls from south of Paulden suggesting the lights were moving in a south-eastern direction. Allegedly, there were over 700 witnesses, including pilots, police officers, and military officials that were lighting up the National UFO Reporting Center’s switchboards looking for an explanation. Some describe the lights as orbs, ^others said triangles. ^A large amount of witnesses describe the lights ^as part of a singular massive craft, ^a craft that made no noise.
– So some people saw a craft, I got a bubble, I got an air bubble in my throat right now, you hear that? You ever get that? This is scary, I don’t sound like myself. – Oh, you sound– – I sound like an alien. – You sound alien. – Yeah, I’m like a pod person. (grunts) Okay. Yeah, you know, that’s that thing, you look in the darkness long enough, you’re gonna see something. – Yeah, 700 people are gonna all hallucinate at the same time. – Yeah. – Okay. – I mean, some of them did, some of them didn’t. I mean, it’s not hallucinating, I’m saying some of the people looked up and said– – Misidentified. – Oh, I see something, I’m staring at the darkness, are those all connected, what’s my mind doing? – Here’s a crazy dot– – In March? – Though this may be, I may be going off the deep end here, but if 700 people say they saw something, what if they actually saw something? – No doubt they saw something, but what is that thing? – Don’t, what? – That’s the question.
– One man named Terry Proctor captured ^one of the only videos of this event. ^The grainy, low-quality video, which we can’t show you ^due to copyright, seemingly displays five lights in a V-like pattern in the sky. ^Around 10 PM, a second set of as many as nine lights ^appeared in the sky, seemingly hovering in the same spot. ^Whether these lights are related to or are in fact the same ^lights from the seven PM sighting, is unclear. However, it’s this set of lights that comprises most of eyewitness testimony, as it was later in the night after the buzz of the first sighting had people on alert.
– It seems like not the usual M.O. for aliens, right, to sort of do a little appetizer? – This is a weird case because there’s a possibility that one was legit and one actually was something normal, but was misidentified, so it confuses things. – Curious. – Or they were the same thing. I think either is just as likely. I think it’s possible that aliens knew they were gonna be seen, or didn’t know that they were gonna be seen, one of them fucked up, was asleep at the wheel, forgot to turn on the cloaking device or some crazy shit like that. – It’s just a button. – And now he’s fired and he’s looking for work. His wife divorced him, his little alien kids don’t have income to live off of, it’s a really bad situation for that alien father. – I don’t think aliens have money. – A laser printer technician named Dana Valentine witnessed the craft from his yard in Phoenix. ^Quote, we could see the outline of a mass ^behind the lights, but you couldn’t actually see the mass. ^It was more like a gray distortion of the night sky, wavy. ^I don’t know exactly what it was, ^but I know it’s not a technology the public ^has heard of before, end quote.
^Tim Ley, a management consultant, described the event ^saying, quote, it was astonishing and a little frightening. ^It was so big and so strange. ^You couldn’t actually see the object, all you could see was the outline, ^as though something was blotting out the stars. ^The lights looked like gas. ^There was a distortion on the surface. ^Also, the light didn’t spill out or shine. ^I’ve never seen a light like that, end quote. According to a USA Today article from the time, air traffic controllers could not see the lights on radar, despite seeing them with their own eyes in the sky. That’s pretty significant. – Yeah. – If there are planes, you would see them on the radar. – Yeah. – So it’s not a plane. – Unless it was stealth. – We’ll get into that later. Based off of reports, it appears that the mysterious spacecraft was enormous, made no sound, moved slowly, and on occasion, would hover over an area. Phoenix physician Dr. Lynne Kitei was a witness of these lights and states, quote, ^it was a mile-wide formation of these orbs ^and I caught them head-on turning into a V, end quote.
^Witness Sue Watson described the craft as, quote, ^a shopping mall flying over my home. ^It had these lights in front and then it was ^totally illuminated underneath, like a yellowish amber. ^It was a totally rounded boomerang shape, end quote. Videos of this second event showed the string of nine lights hovering in the sky. The lights illuminate off and on randomly over the course of a couple minutes while floating in what could be described as a loose, V-like formation. Other videos captured the events of March 13th, 1997 and according to a USA Today article, quote, ^computer analysis of the tapes puts the object ^at 6,000 feet long, or more than a mile, end quote. – With these things, I tend to, you know, I tend to put it first on spooky military activity more so than extraterrestrials.
It just seems like a big gamble for extraterrestrials to just, I mean, if they’re coming down at night in the first place, you know, clearly, and they’re trying to cloak themselves, well great. Maybe hang outside a few miles outside of town. – I mean, really it’s not that much of a gamble. What’s the gamble? They’re clearly more advanced than us, what’s gonna happen? Okay, we see them, we did see them. We’re not gonna attack them. – So pop on by around the afternoon. – Because maybe they– – Let’s get some peepers on that ship. – Maybe they saw us and they were like, hm, not interested. Swipe right, or left, or whatever the fuck Twitter is. Not Twitter, Tinder, just sounded like an 80-year-old man right there.
(laughs) – Whatever Twinder. – Whatever Twinder is. – Twinder. – Uh, yeah. I think maybe they saw, they came to check out resources. They didn’t like what they saw so they just left. While there are people who say the lights were part of one giant craft, there are others who believe the lights themselves were the crafts. ^A truck driver named Bill Greiner’s recollection ^of the event seems to suggest the latter. ^Greiner said that his truck route took him ^within a mile of Luke Air Force Base. ^He states that he witnessed two orbs, one of which was floating over the air force base. At that moment, three F-16s took off, after which the orb pursued one, but then shot up into the sky and disappeared. ^Quote, before this, if anybody had told me ^they saw a UFO, I would have said “yeah, ^”and I believe in the tooth fairy.” Now I’ve got a whole new view.
I may be just a dumb truck driver, but I’ve seen something that don’t belong here. I wish the government would just admit it. You know what it’s like in this city right now? It’s like having 50,000 people in a stadium watch a football game and then having someone tell us we weren’t there, end quote. – Love this guy. – Yeah, I love it. He’s like he realizes the first thing a skeptic is gonna say is “oh, it’s a fuckin’ truck driver.” Check that box. – Yeah. I was gonna say, oh, it’s a fuckin’ truck driver. He got me dead to rights.
– And then he gave a solid analogy of people watching a sporting event and then having people go “hey, you didn’t watch that.” – And he also gave the I was a skeptic until I saw this defense, which is great. Oh yeah, and I believe in the tooth fairy, go fuck yourself. – It was a three-pronged attack. – That’s pretty good. – This guy’s, uh, he’s a savant when it comes to rhetoric.
– Yeah. ^- On May sixth during a council meeting, ^city councilwoman Frances Barwood asks city manager ^Frank Fairbanks if there was going to be an investigation. ^Quote, I asked if anybody knew what this object was ^and could we check into it. ^I was met by a whole bunch of stares, end quote. ^She claims that following the meeting, a city manager approached her and said, quote, you shouldn’t have asked that question, end quote. Then the Arizona Republic published a cartoon of city councilwoman Barwood with a light switch on her forehead and a button on her jacket ^saying, quote, I love UFOs, end quote. Barwood continues, the mayor’s office put signs on my picture in the hallway and I found out afterwards they handed out business cards with my name on it that said speak into the tin foil. I will hear you, end quote.
Despite being ridiculed, Barwood began receiving phone calls from other witnesses all describing the same thing. Nonetheless, for a while, the case went unacknowledged until a USA Today article released three months later, on June 18th, 1997 described the event, effectively bringing the story into the national spotlight. From the article, quote, on March 13th, hundreds of people reported an enormous object or objects in the night sky. It’s the most confounding UFO report in 50 years.
So far, there is no explanation, but the government is not investigating. Local and federal agencies disagree over who should purse the report, end quote. – Yeah, I guess it didn’t, so there’s been almost no coverage of it up until here. – No, and this is three months after the sighting. – ‘Cause this is, this is before YouTube or– – Yeah, no one’s on Twitter going “holy shit.” – Yeah. – ‘Cause, you know, I mean for example, remember, what was it, a couple months ago when the SpaceX launch happened and it looked like the sky was breaking? If that happened in 1997 and we didn’t have Twitter. – Everyone would think it was an alien. – Everyone would think it’s an alien, they would lose their mind. – Yeah. – Of course, the government was, to their credit, able to give an explanation. They even announced it was gonna happen. They said this ship’s, it wasn’t a covert operation, so in that case, I don’t know if it’s too similar, but the internet is a tool of knowledge, I suppose.
– In some ways. – Yeah, or it could be a means of destruction, the end of us. – Just hang in there, everybody. – With the country hungry for answers, then-governor Fife Symington held a press conference ^where he claimed he knew who was responsible ^and brought out the accused. – And now I’ll ask Officer Stein and his colleagues to escort the accused into the room so that we may all look upon the guilty party. Don’t get him too close to me please. (audience laughs) – And it’s here that this story gets interesting, because despite making a joke of the event, Governor Symington would later publicly admit ^that he too had seen the craft.
Quote, I saw a huge craft come right over Squall Peak. It was just breathtaking. As a pilot and a former Air Force officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any man-made object that I’d ever seen. ^It was certainly not high altitude flares, ^because I’ve never seen flares fly in formation. ^Unquestionably, it was a UFO, end quote. Another interesting fact from Governor Symington ^was the fact that his office did inquire about the object, ^but they never received an answer, ^and if a governor can’t receive an explanation from the powers that be, what could they be hiding? – There’s probably a lot of things they don’t tell governors. – Sure, but not when the governor in question has a state full of people that are pressing him for answers. You would think that they would be like, “hey, I know a lot of people are on you right now. “You’re under a lot of heat. “This is what you do,” but instead they ostracize him, they keep him on the outside to think oh, I wonder what he’s gonna do? Maybe he’ll run his mouth. – I would be more concerned if he did know something.
– I’m just saying that if they had talked to him, he wouldn’t have said anything ever, I think. Because he would have had the fear of god in him. – But then he’s still, he’s still like a loose cannon. – Not necessarily. – They can’t know for sure that if they tell him something, he’s going to, he could go nuts, they don’t know. – Yeah you can, because it’s your job. I’m just saying that by keeping someone in the dark, you’re giving them the liberty to say whatever they really want. – With no basis for it, though. So if anyone hears it, they’re not gonna– – It has a little bit of basis. He’s a governor saying something, so that already inherently has a little bit of basis.
– But he doesn’t know more than anyone else in town. – I know. – Is the thing. – But it just makes it look more suspicious. – I don’t think it does. – I think it does. – Well, agree to disagree here. – All right. With that, let’s get into the theories, of which there are only two. The first theory is the official explanation ^from the Air Force that the lights witnessed in the sky ^were merely flares dropped in a training exercise ^from high altitude that night. ^The military states that the flares were dropped ^over the Barry M. Goldwater range near Gila Bend, Arizona, ^though it’s worth noting that Tuscon’s Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, the base that allegedly carried out the training exercise originally stated that it had no planes in the air at the time.
Former F-16 pilot Ty Groh believes that the lights ^may well have been military flares. He says that flares go where the wind takes them. A breeze may have been able to carry all of them at an equal distance. In June of that year, a local news anchor taped another flare drop by the military, and skeptics suggest it bared a striking resemblance to the Phoenix lights. One important detail is what time the military reportedly dropped flares on the night of the Phoenix lights. The flare drop apparently occurred around 10 PM, ^aka the same time sightings of the second ^set of lights were reported, ^but while that possibly explains those lights, ^that still offers no explanation for the first set ^of lights that were seen nearly three hours earlier.
^One man named Mitch Stanley claims that during the time ^of the first sighting, he happened to be using ^a high-powered telescope capable of seeing ^1,500 times more light than the human eye. When he looked at the first set of lights, he claims they were planes. While compelling, this story seems odd ^when you consider the fact that no planes were reported ^in the air during the time of the first sighting, ^and since it wasn’t just one light, but rather five lights, ^it seems odd that there would be five unaccounted-for ^planes flying in tight formation. – My gut tells me it’s just some shady military activity. Could have been flares, could have been stealths. You know, who knows? – They’ve only given one explanation for the second set of lights, and even that explanation to me is shit, I would say. (laughs) I think it’s a shit explanation.
– This one’s shit. – I just think the flares, even if you do buy the flares, sure, the first set of lights still unexplained, except for one dude with a telescope who’s competing against 700 witnesses. And why the fuck is this guy with a telescope, he just happens to be using a telescope at the exact time of one of the craziest events of all time? – You gotta be honest, telescope people are weird. – (laughs) Yeah, I know, ’cause he’s actually– – We don’t wanna be one of those. – He’s a favorite among skeptics, they’re like “see, this guy’s using a high power telescope with his mama” which he was, he was using, he was in the back– – No, I don’t doubt that he was, that him and his mama were out with their telescope.
I’m just saying telescope people, I mean, how much are they spending on these telescopes? They’re gonna be out there every single night with like a margarita like let’s see what I find. – Yeah that’s true. – Oh, empty sky again, wow what a night. Well, that’s been eight hours, guess I’ll go to sleep ’cause the sun’s coming up. They’re basically vampires. – Then he says to his mom “good scoping.” She goes “good scoping, son” and then they go back to bed. – When are you gonna move out? (laughs) – Which brings us to our next theory, that the lights were not flares, but actual UFOs, ^and perhaps proof of extraterrestrial life.
^On the third year anniversary of the lights, ^another flare demonstration was performed ^to attempt to mimic the lights, ^this time by the National Guard, ^but people remained unconvinced ^that this was what they witnessed three years earlier. ^The flares, quote, flickered and moved erratically, ^end quote, and not in the bizarre grouped fashion ^of the Phoenix lights. Jim Dilettosa, a special effects expert, analyzed videos ^of the lights and said, quote, I have no idea ^what they were, end quote. ^Him and his team detail the orbs as, quote, ^a perfectly uniform light with no variation ^from one edge to the other and no glow.
^They have ruled out lasers, flares, holograms, ^and aircraft lights as sources, end quote. To gain further insight on this case, ^we sat down with ancient alien expert Giorgio A. Tsoukalos. What do you think the plausibility of this event actually happening is? – Well, we know it happened. (laughing) – We do know what happened. Ryan and I agree, we don’t know what it was exactly. – What it was, yes, correct, and what I think is fascinating is that something similar happened seven years earlier in Belgium, which was also seen by thousands upon thousands of people.
Same triangle formation and then also the individual lights. So I think it’s fascinating. – Have you seen anything that could maybe be an early version of what we saw in the Phoenix lights? – Sure, what’s interesting is that Alexander the Great and also in some accounts of ancient Constantinople, there are references of giant flying shields. Giant shields that are glowing in the sky and just crossed, you know, over the lands. So when you have these accounts of ancient flying shields up in the sky that are witnessed by armies, you have to wonder, well, were they all drunk? (laughing) Were they all smoking, or did they actually see something? – Even if the lights were misidentified flares ^or planes, this still doesn’t explain numerous witnesses ^describing a massive craft that the lights were attached to.
^Piggybacking off that, on March 14th, 1997, ^the morning after the Phoenix lights, ^an airman from Luke Air Force Base ^detailed a disturbing story from the day prior. ^He claimed that the base got a call from Prescott Valley ^Airport, quote, reporting an object that had a near-miss with a small Cessna, end quote. He claimed this call came at, quote, ^approximately PM, that they encountered something ^over Phoenix, Arizona, end quote.
^As a result, the airman claims that Luke Air Force Base ^sent two F-15s to investigate. Upon their return to base, here’s how the airman described the pilot of one of the F-15s. Quote, the command pilot of this particular flight, I’ve never seen this man scared, and he was scared to death. He’s not sure what it was. His statement was that they followed this aircraft, it went on a straight-line course. He saw five distinct lights in a triangular pattern. How often would this happen where the military has stealth planes out that they don’t tell Air Force bases about? – It’s possible. – That seems wildly counterproductive to me. You don’t wanna be sending out a bunch of planes to investigate things when you could easily be like “oh yeah, that’s one of ours.” – Yeah, I just feel like the military, you know, it’s hard to pin down. Hard to pin down what they might do. – I think I just made a good point.
– I mean, certainly, certainly a good point for you. – After this revelation, the airman claimed ^the Air Force base, quote, had a complete lockdown. ^All hell broke loose basically ^and the facility was closed, end quote. Noteworthy is that this encounter occurred around PM at the time of the first sighting, about an hour and a half before the military claims they dropped flares.
In response, the Air Force has denied this encounter ever took place. Classic. – I love that, yeah. – Classic, do you think they just have a dartboard that they throw whether or not they’re gonna, they’re gonna deny? – Just spin a wheel. – What should we tell them this time? – Yeah. – I think it would be a fun job to be the person who makes up fake stories that the military leaks. – Spin doctor. – Ooh, a spin doctor. – Yeah. – And then he spins his wheel– – Oh, he spins a wheel! – That has topics on it– – It’s all very literal. – And it has topics on it. – We’re going with flares, unfortunately. – And everyone in the office who had flares in their pool is like “yeah!” – They choke Alf a little bit more. (Ryan laughs) – It makes sense that the Air Force would deny this story, since denying interest in UFOs is something that the government has already done. ^In December 2017, it was found that the nation’s defense department had used $22 million of their annual $600 billion budget for an advanced aerospace threat identification program. ^Defense department officials admitted that for years, ^the program had been investigating ^unidentified flying objects.
^Here’s a quote from a New York Times article on a 60-minute documentary on this topic detailing documents provided in the documentary. Quote, documents that describe sightings of aircraft that seem to move at very high velocities with no visible signs of propulsion, or that hovered with no apparent means of lift, end quote. Why do you think the government approaches the topic of UFOs with such trepidation? Why do you think they’re so against it? – That’s a great question because as we now know, ever since the ’50s and the ’60s, you know, open-minded people like the three of us and our great audience, we’ve always been laughed at and oh, you know, those are the kooks, those are the crazies. And then there’s reports coming out, well, we’ve been studying this, you know, files and files with hundreds of thousands of documents, world-wide, not just by the US government, but by governments from Brazil, England, all over the place, that ultimately, this stuff has been investigated and the fact that the Pentagon in December of 2017 released a statement saying “hey, we’re investigating UFOs,” that to me indicates that we’ve passed, or we are experiencing a paradigm shift, which is great.
– In the end, neither skeptics nor believers can concretely prove what happened that night. Despite hundreds of witnesses across an entire state, the world seems content to leave what transpired that night as a mystery. Perhaps one day we’ll have an answer, but for now, the case remains unsolved. (mysterious music) .